I believe in equality for all and the church saying that equality doesn’t exist for gay people is insane. the only reason people went left on this issue is because most people believe in equality for all and telling gay people they aren’t allowed to get married is fucking dumb.
Henk, if you don’t agree with the teachings of the Catholic Church, you don’t have to be a Catholic. This is the beauty of America: if you want to practice a different religion or none at all, you’re right to do so is protected here. Of course, Islam does not believe in gays or gay marriage either, but Islam does not permit you to stop being a Muslim, that’s considered apostasy and that is punishable by death. In America, whoever might get away with killing you for apostasy, when caught, will be tried for murder and if convicted, sent to prison. So at least there’s that. You can hate on Catholicism all you like, but you don’t get to bully them to force them to see the world your way. If you believe in being tolerant of others, something you think Catholics don’t do, then all you have to do is leave them alone.
New Testament, it removes some food restrictions while retaining the morality of the Old Testament. The New Testament removes one of the 10 Commandments, to honor the Sabbath. The New Testament book of Romans, Chapter 1, explains in great detail how sexual obsession becomes an idol, a substitute God instead of God the Father. Romans 1 uses male and female homosexual activity as the prime examples of this. Conservatives dropped the open arguing against homosexual activity when the Supreme Court made it legal, but God has not changed His mind. That’s the obsession to not be judged, the Godless have this obsession because they can never shake the guilt of God’s disapproval of their favorite sins. Remember that homosexual activity is not the only sin, but it is still a sin. So is sex outside of marriage. By 2030 the CCP might rule the planet, will gay marriage be accepted by the CCP? Is it now accepted by the CCP? Just like today’s Left is power-mad after achieving the fake presidency and have dropped the mask of civility, so the CCP in full power against a starving and defenseless population. In 2030 we may all be in CCP concentration death camps. Fear of a CCP planet?
I don’t think anyone feels bad for letting down the invisible man unless they’re also in your cult. Bit of an oxymoron there.
Technically the commandment is thou shall not Murder. It was mistranslated to kill at some point.
I happen to agree, but there is still some disagreement. Those who insist it means no killing, of any kind, are those who are against the death penalty. They keep forgetting that God kills righteously all the time. And they forget that God commands us to hate evil. Killing evil is our mandate. Far too many simply find it impossible to tell what is in fact evil. So they equivocate.
I happen to agree, but there is still some disagreement. Those who insist it means no killing, of any kind, are those who are against the death penalty. They keep forgetting that God kills righteously all the time. And they forget that God commands us to hate evil. Killing evil is our mandate. Far too many simply find it impossible to tell what is in fact evil. So they equivocate. They don’t think ending evil requires killing sometimes, they don’t want to think that. They are paralyzed by what they think is a paradox, so they default to the tolerating evil until someone figures out how to get rid of evil without killing, which of course still hasn’t happened.
*default to the tolerating evil position
If you are Christian and you are afraid of chinas influence on your church, for gods sake do more then pray. You got to get your ass active in church politics. If all you do is pray, you’ll be just like these Q anon people “trusting the plan” and then become blind sided when suddenly everything goes wrong cause you didn’t actually get up and do something about it.
Really appreciated hearing a faith based political conversation! Excellent show!
Not eating shellfish was a sacrifice. Jesus was the last sacrifice so you no longer have to sacrifice shellfish. It also says somewhere I think in mark that food travels through the stomach and not the heart.
[Act 11:4-9 NASB20] 4 But Peter began and explained [at length] to them in an orderly sequence, saying, 5 “I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, an object coming down like a great sheet lowered by four corners from the sky; and it came to where I [was,] 6 and I stared at it and was thinking about it, and I saw the four-footed animals of the earth, the wild animals, the crawling creatures, and the birds of the sky. 7 “I also heard a voice saying to me, ‘Get up, Peter; kill and eat.’ 8 “But I said, ‘By no means, Lord, for nothing unholy or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’ 9 “But a voice from heaven answered a second time, ‘What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy.’
Finally got some free time to take in the bonuscast, and gotta say, Seamus is one of my favorite of your guests. I hope you have him on a lot more. As a severely back-slidden Catholic, I find it encouraging to hear someone so young speak so eloquently on behalf of Catholicism, vs denouncing it or vs advocating for its further corruption. And he has a great sense of humor.
It’s so hard to watch Seamus, he’s so brainwashed.
What do you mean? Because he’s religious?
Amazing segment guys keep it up.
A Priest, a Pastor and a Rabbit walk into a bar.
The Rabbit turns to the bartender and says,
“I think I’m a typo.”
Haha that’s great
Good shit bro, legit didn’t see that coming.
It would be great if You would have a guest that is Pentecostal on the show. I love Seamus, but I find that Catholicism has a lot of problems and would love to have people see some different Christian perspectives. Personally I know a ton about end times prophecy and how it relates to the current times. The open dialogue is very refreshing tho. Keep it up!
End times . . . .will Christians face the antichrist
Well the Tribulation is 7 years long according to the Bible and there are 3 different beliefs on when the rapture will take place. Pre-tribulation, halfway through the tribulation, and at the end of the tribulation. The antichrist comes at the halfway point, so 3 and a half years. Personally from what I read I think Christians will go through the tribulation and at the very least half of it. It does say that those who proclaim the name of Jesus and do not serve the antichrist will be killed. It is hard to determine if this will be the Church or if it will be those left behind who have had their eyes opened.
Thankful for your input, I agree.
Pentecostalism, at least from personal practice experience, is as real as it gets. “Spiritual” goosebumps daily, since I’ve made this my following.
I believe that followers of Christ should be just as the Apostles and early church lived and served God. That was the most pure form of Christianity and the name pentecostal comes from the day of pentecost when all those who were in the upper room were filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues. You are certainly correct it is the most real way to live for Christ.
The same “God” that claims life is so precious and must not be aborted has also commanded the direct slaughter of specific peoples or even ethnic groups. Hypocrisy thy name is Christianity.
“air” quotes rule
If you think that then you do not understand what the Bible says. God commanded the Jews to kill their enemies in the old testament, but that is totally different in terms of the context of situations. Once Jesus came, died, and resurrected, God’s grace was poured out for all of humankind. This meant that all could be saved and not just God’s chosen people.
Should we be surprised? The catholic church worked with the Nazis and helped many escape europe at the end of the war.
So they call it the left hand path bc of who sits on the right hand of God. It’s no coincidence that its the left who are the most outwardly immoral but worry not as there ain’t a good 1 among them. Also, I thought that the text was actually “thou shall not murder” as killing would need to be fair game. How else would one enjoy the animals as food that God gave us dominion over? To all the law stuff I say Jesus would say that there were really only 2 laws to follow that are love no other gods than the God & love thy neighbor as thyself, God will sort the rest out. Just do your part to spread the word , tell the truth , don’t be deceived & take no shit. I’ll be seeing you all much sooner than you think.Because the devil, your foe, roars loudly as he roams the world looking for souls to devour…Or something like that.
Great job everyone.
When it comes to people assuming that others will immediately voice disdain for their perspective, I think the media is only part of the problem. Sure, they craft these insane narratives about anyone who demonstrates vocal dissent, but they only have a minor amount of influence in the responses their ideological followers.
I would say the biggest culprit of convincing people their ideas will be attacked is social media. It has been so pervasive in our culture that the extreme isolationism between various ideological factions is prompting people to view opposition as an affront. It is the age of the Woke Crusades and blasphemy seems to be the highest of crimes.
Good point, as allways life isn’t easy. And especially not black and white.
But I think the overall projection of the media puts at least a heavy burden on this subject.
Very articulate and a great point
As a Buddhist, all the answers are inside already, it is your task to focus inward and try to understand.
Tim and the rest of the company thank you
Question for ya. Where’s a good place to learn Buddhism theology? I’d like to learn more about it without opinions being inserted into it.
Such a BS answer to Tim’s shellfish and mixed textile question ” well some standards aren’t held to such a high regard but other no others are”
As a Bhistian or Chruddist, I prefer the latter?, I loved Ian’s question to Seamus, “what about war?”
The Decree Against Communism was a 1949 Catholic Church document issued by the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, and approved by Pope Pius XII, which declared Catholics who professed Communist doctrine to be excommunicated as apostates from the Christian faith.
If a Catholic in China swears allegiance to the Chinese Communist Party are they still Catholic?
I enjoy Seamus’s discussions from a Catholic perspective, and I completely agree about abortion. I think it is one of the greatest human rights violations in our history, and it resembles the worship of the god Moloch in my honest opinion.
I do understand that outlawing abortion won’t make it go away, and it will only lead to more death, however. I simply want better alternatives for women who feel they have no other choice.
On the other hand, celibacy being “superior” is a purely Catholic perspective, and I completely disagree with Seamus there. Not at all a biblical perspective.
Either way, I appreciate your conversations with a person of faith! Seamus rocks.
This was a great conversation! I really took a lot from Seamus. I was gleeful when he actually started pulling up scripture.
Hey guys! Just wanted to come on and shout out George Gammon! He’s the guy Ian mentioned who is suing the fed. He’s got a great YouTube channel, and I’d love to see him on the show. Ian would love his knowledge of the fed, and he could clarify a lot about how the financial system screws regular Americans and exacerbates wealth inequality
You do not need to be a Catholic to be a Christian. Accept the facts. Catholicism is one and only one of the many variant denominations of Christianity. I am Australian and have lived in China several times. My Chinese girlfriend, in China, was a Christian as were her friends, They did not subscribe to the Catholic doctrine. When we first met she told me she was a Christian, and worshipped God, Jesus, but did not worship Mary, the mother of Jesus. I have nothing against Catholic people, but the whole concept of belief in God does not require being a member of any particular religion, church or doctrine. It is a personal relationship and requires no buildings or hierarchical structure or dogma outside of a personal commitment. The fact that the CCP are ordering the Catholic system within China is abhorrent to the very ideal and concept of Faith…Just sayin;…
You are right.
What’s horrifying about this is that it sets a precedent for what could happen to other denominations, such as the Baptists, Methodists, or the denomination I come from, the Apostolic denomination.
It’s interesting to listen to this religious stuff as an Ex-Mormon, a gay one at that. I lost all faith in god in it’s entirety, and there is little chance I would ever have faith again, but it is rather interesting to listen to adults who still believe. I find myself to be rather conservative for the most part but I’m also not standing for any churches, I guess I’m an oddball. I held onto some of the morals I grew up with and tossed out some of the things I found to be outright wrong. The LDS church is a rather dangerous cult, and leaving it left me jaded when it comes to anything faith related. I will say the conservatives that even disagree with me being gay are far kinder people than the left wingers who use the flag and people as tokens haha, I’d rather work with genuine people who disagree than disingenuous jerks who only pretend to care.
Agreed and same here. I’m pretty much Atheist at this point but he is at least very well read and truely believes. I’m happy for him but I’d love to have a discussion with him, my only complaint about Samus is he is way to religious for my taste. But dude is talented and funny as hell
We can solve all these problems if we diamond-handed, foil-hatted gorillas #StandWithTrevor,
and promote policies that effectively address issues. Like if they’d actually made civil unions work in the first place, although I personally have no issue with it being called marriage, it could have actually been a technicality.
Seamus is awesome! I wish he was on the show a bit more. :3
Seamus articulated a Biblical world view in the context of American history and culture very well. I would argue against the Roman Catholic church having sound doctrine on many key areas, but I do agree with Seamus and most Catholics on the supremacy of Christ over all things.
Agreed, he eloquently explained the difference between cultural OT law and moral OT law. I am glad that this was explained in detail because, although that question about shellfish or clothing with mixed garments gets brought up often, no one ever seems to be able to answer it.
God distinguishes between the cultural law of the ancient Jews and the moral law that applies to all of humanity. That is how I would have explained it.
Tim goes “We’ve gone long.” Cuts off discussion. Lol. I get you don’t want to, should not, & can’t truly film all day. I just want to know, why are some exclusives 20 or 30 minutes, with others an hour or so? Is it the guests? I would have watched another 30 minutes of tonight’s discussion. Love the show. Hopefully you hit 1 million by friday!?
I could have listened to another 2 hours of this. Tim – I am so appreciative that you would allow a religiously conservative view on these cultural issues to be expressed even if you disagree on abortion, gay marriage, and other topics. If you really wanted to do a deep dive into these issues and where the Church and State intersect…. you should listen to CrossPolitic podcasts on Sunday nights. They advocate for Christian Theonomy as the basis of a judicious, fair, and prosperous society. They have had some of the same guests you have had on like Jason Whitlock.
Circumcision as given to Abraham for the Hebrew people was to be a sign that they are set apart from the other nations as God’s chosen people. Circumcision of the heart may be compared to baptism by emersion as an outward declaration of an inward change. The change being accepting the gift of salvation Jesus paid for on the cross and resurrection 3 days later and beginning the regeneration of the soul of the person.
And holy, in a biblical sense, means to be set apart.
Bible believing Christians who practice their faith, rather than simply only preaching it, clearly stand out and are set apart. That is holiness from a holy people — not a perfect people. People confuse the two.
The Republican Party IS in fact the Link between the Socialist Left Democrat Party…..and the Actual Conservatives, who are more Right than the Republican Party, and the RNC keeps pulling the True Conservatives to the LEFT by its Constant Everlasting COMPROMISING OF VALUES AND STANCES,
This ^. Also, I was a part of the problem too having supported the GOP establishment for years. Very few in the GOP actually fight for Biblical principles. Rand Paul, Louie Gohmert, few others. I wish an economic populist Christian Right party would rise up and unapologetically be pro-life and against the Federal Income Tax completely.
Agreed. Republicans are speed bumps and Demonrats are 4×4’s. Anyone at or right of Libertarian is almost entirely unrepresented in modern government.
Wow, so he doesn’t use birth-control with his wife! That’s impressive, as it takes so much self-control– well, at least for his wife, who has to abstain from sex during her most creative / horny time of the month !
YAY – Pro-life !
PS– the adultery part only applies to females
YAY – Patriarchy !
No Timmy, it doesn’t just apply to his Wife, it is superapplicable to ALL MAKES FIRST…..
Get the facts, then make a statement…..
Thanks for your input! Good point. It’s been some time since i “enjoyed” reading comments.
That’s the issue i’m having with religion/catholic church, and i can’t get my head around it.
But fundamentally i would agree with you, but to many people use this as an umbrella for whatever reason.
Idgaf about this shit. It’s like being a scholar about astrology.
Some of us do care. I know I do. I don’t care that much about UFO’s but I don’t bitch about not caring about it. Open your ears a bit and learn something mundane that actually may be useful. That’s what I do. Just a suggestion friend.
Yes… also don’t care for UFOs…
Can we get a skit: Tim, Ian and Seamus being as offensive and obnoxious as possible. Get Michael Malice in as well for good measure.
Michael can be the referee!
I am a gorilla.
This was awesome but I want to know what happen to time after the aliens took him away and who is feeding the chickens?
Seamus, there is no such thing as holy people.
How do you define “holy people”?
I got fed my red pill about 2 years ago and have been having such a hard time staying my naturally optimistic self..until i found you Tim…your show is informative, honest, funny as hell, and when I read the comments, every person here is respectful and polite even when they don’t agree. Gives me back some faith in humanity that was lost with my naivete. So thank you too Tim, all his amazing guest, and all yall wonderful folks here watching them with me!!!
I am a Conservative Presbyterian traditionalist that would take issue with Papal Infallibility and the Roman Catholic Church position on the Communion, Mary’s role in salvation, and other key issues. However, I would agree with Seamus on much still , as I would reject your assertion that there is ‘no such thing as holy people’. There are NUMEROUS passages about imperfect people who have been called out of darkness (sin) into HOLINESS. See here: https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/868/Holy-People.htm
Now, if we are talking about who amongst all people is “worthy”, the Bible makes it clear that there is NOT EVEN ONE person who is worthy of any praise……. except for Jesus Christ who lived a perfect life.
(9)What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, (10) as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one;
(11)no one understands; no one seeks for God.
I wholesale admit that I will be in the absolute minority on my position here. One thing is right – traditionalist conservatives like myself have NOT fought hard and find ourselves having lost so much of the culture war. Tim is right on that. I am guilty of cowardice and incrementalism in accepting things that 20 years ago I would not have accepted…. and I did so out of fear of losing my job or money or the respect of my social circles. So I too am guilty.
Im with you bro, Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life.
I can play the bonus segments without having my phone on, but not the full episodes after they have been uploaded. And anyone that calls out their comment position is a woke racist
Um, why don’t you put it on YouTube? Or stream it to your television?
Sometimes I listen to these when I’m not home.
I shall wait to comment… at least until the clip is released.
Is time changing cause it’s naturally supposed to be , or is it that uneducated people are forcing the change leading it to destruction . If your at the top of a mountain and some one pushes u down the other side saying “we’re supposed to be going down the mountain now ” when we didn’t want to ,is that natural ?
Didn’t even know you could comment on videos lmao
same here haha I just noticed the comment counter.
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